DJGold

Professor Jam · Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 11:18 am Post subject: Boot Camp

Have you ever spoken with a MAC user and mentioned you mix on a PC and watch their face?

The passionate debate with CPS DJs over the years between which software is superior has been mind-boggling but comes in a distant second between the Mac vs. PC battle.

The release of the public beta for Boot Camp is freaking dedicated MAC users out to see Windows XP boot-up on otherwise superior systems. I find it irresistible to have the marketing advantage when asked what type of computer I mix on to say both MAC and PC when in past telling a dedicated MAC user I used PC gave them the cringe factor.

My experience has been on a 2GHz MacBook Pro with shared L2 Cache, 15.4-inch TFT display @ 1440x900 resolution 667MHz front-side bus, 1GB (single SO-DIMM) 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM, ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 with 256MB GDDR3 memory with 100GB 5400rpm Serial ATA hard drive.

If you are using the public beta for Boot Camp give your system specs, and share your experiences, pro and con.

DJ Teddy Bear · Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 12:56 pm Post subject: Re: Boot Camp

Never heard of Boot Camp. Care to share where we can get it?

For the record, I use a Mac. That's because I've been using a Mac for all my other stuff since 1986. Last year, when I decided to go the CPS route, I chose a Mac simply because I am more familiar with it. Also, at my day job, I use a PC and am quite often frustrated with it.

On occasion I have used a PC with some flavor of PCDJ when I spin for another DJ (thier equipment, they are the MC). I find it superior to my current Mac mixing software, MegaSeg. I also own Traktor, but haven't jumped in with both feet yet.

Didn't mean to fuel the fire. But you have mycuriosity up on the Boot Camp thing.

djdonny · Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 4:29 pm Post subject:

http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/

CJ Greiner · Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 5:45 pm Post subject:

It's still a little hard to use (requires original Windows XP -- not upgrade, media edition, etc.)

If they would make it just a little easier, you might find many people switching over to Macs. Then you can boot to either operating system!

Macs already have the ability to run Office XP... this is just the extra little boost Apple needed to be (almost) truly compatible with any software package out there.

NOW: we'll have to see if an Apple running Windows XP can successfully run our DJ programs. If the Apple is as reliable, or even more so, then PCs will really have some competition.

DJ Teddy Bear · Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 11:54 pm Post subject:

Thanks for that link Donny.

Actually, when I first heard about the new Intel based Macs, I wondered if they would run Windows natively.

One of the arguments you will hear in the Mac vs PC war is that Apple continually trims the fat. When major advances in the operating system or hardware occur, compatibility with old stuff is limited, with a relatively short window of opportunity where the old stuff is still supported. Also, since Apple is the only manufacturer of Macs, they can control this timeline.

Windows, on the other hand, is bloated because there are dozens of manufacturers making a large variety of PCs. Additionally, because of competition, there is a tendancy to hang on to inferior technology so a cheaper computer cna be produced. Windows is forced to support that technology much longer than Microsoft would want to.

All PC manufacturers already have to provide their own drivers, or be compatible with the drivers built into Windows. Providing the drivers is what Boot Camp does.

Bottom line, with all those manufacturers producing a wide variety of PCs, adding a Mac into the Windows compatible pool of computers is a no-brainer.

I.E. The Apple and Microsoft camps MAY finally be playing nice.

DJ Teddy Bear · Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 11:57 pm Post subject:

CJ Greiner wrote: If the Apple is as reliable, or even more so, then PCs will really have some competition. While an Apple running Windows will be comparable to higher-end PCs, they will share PCs biggest problem: Windows itself.

Professor Jam · Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 12:46 am Post subject: Re: Boot Camp

I just returned from DJing a college formal dance but looks like others gave you the required info.

CJ Greiner · Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 9:36 am Post subject:

DJ Teddy Bear wrote: CJ Greiner wrote: If the Apple is

as reliable, or even more so, then PCs will really have some competition. While an Apple running Windows will be comparable to higher-end PCs, they will share PCs biggest problem: Windows itself.

Exactly!

As you mentioned before, the biggest weakness of a high-end computer is NOT the hardware... it's the Operating System!

That's why having the ability to swap back and forth depending on the application you require will be an added benefit that PCs (so far) can't match.